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Dave - or anyone - when is our "scrimmage" versus the anonymous team ? Do we know that it is versus Michigan ? What can you confirm ? I know you and I cannot be there, but stuff always leaks out.

Any reports from practices ?
10-27-2008 08:09 PM
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I've overheard in passing that they will be scrimmaging at Michigan either Saturday or Sunday.

I was at practice today for about an hour and a half before KSU's football press conference.
Rashad Woods and Brandon Parks stood out in the first hour. They were both playing very hard. Several others appeared to be a bit flat ... until they switched to a 4-on-5 scramble drill. That drill has four players on defense trying to scramble to stop five playing offense. They did that for 20 minutes or so, and that's when the intensity really switched on. Honestly, I think fans of college basketball would have enjoyed watching that as much as they would going to a real game.
Guys played really hard. Singletary, Sullinger, Woods, Parks, Mincy and Fisher in particular really stood out. With lots of kamikaze yelling by Sullinger in that stretch, lots of fist pumping and high fives with every stop by guys like Parks, Singletary and Woods, you could tell they were having a lot of fun, too.
It turned into one of the better practices I've seen in a while.

The team scrimmaged on Sunday. I wasn't there, but I've heard very good reports about Simpson and Evans from that one. Green is also winning an opportunity to get minutes as a freshman.
10-27-2008 09:11 PM
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Have a team Doctor friend in Ann Arbor who might be in attendance for the "scrimmage" see what info he can give!
10-27-2008 09:38 PM
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Sounds good on both accounts. Not unusual all of the names you mentioned early as standing out are veterans. That was the info I was looking for.
10-27-2008 10:01 PM
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Dr K

By any chance, are you a proctologist? Your friend better be a specialist in "invisible medicine". If he shows up at UM, it better be in stripes.
10-28-2008 07:06 PM
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Dave - any report from Ann Arbor and the scrimmage? I know you weren't there, but wondering if we know how it went.
11-02-2008 12:58 AM
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They are probably still on the court (8:49 a.m. at the moment).

Team drove up to Ann Arbor Saturday. Scrimmage was early Sunday morning.
11-02-2008 08:50 AM
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gotcha - well let us know when you hear something. As for an indirect report for an opponent we will play for real in 2 wks. Here is an article about the Memphis Tigers who scrimmaged St. Louis U. yesterday. You will notice, KSU has Tyree Evans, and the Tigers best recruit is Tyreke Evans. Strange.

Calipari after scrimmage: We need work

By Dan Wolken (Contact), Memphis Commercial Appeal
Sunday, November 2, 2008

After watching his team fail to get offensive rebounds and suffer yet another injury when freshman star Tyreke Evans sprained his ankle Saturday in a closed scrimmage at Saint Louis, coach John Calipari had a message for University of Memphis fans.

"We have so far to go to be any good, it's incredible," Calipari said by phone. "So the people who were mad when we were ranked 12th (in the ESPN/USA Today Coaches' poll), I say 'rejoice.' But maybe there are a lot of other bad teams out there, too."

Though Calipari may have engaged in some hyperbole -- it's difficult to know, since the NCAA doesn't allow fans or media members to observe preseason scrimmages between Division 1 teams -- it's no shock that the Tigers have a long way to go.

That much has been obvious in early workouts, with several new players added to the mix and veteran role players being asked to step into new roles. But the point was apparently driven home even further when they got on the court against the Billikens.

Though Calipari wasn't allowed to talk specifically about statistics or scores, he characterized the morning session as "ugly," with a lot of unforced turnovers and a lack of presence on the boards.

"We're not offensive rebounding at all," Calipari said. "We're not even attempting. Last year we didn't shoot the ball well, but we'd rebound, and it wasn't just Joey (Dorsey). It was our team and how we played. Right now, if they even come near us we run the other way. We have to get that squared away."

The Tigers were also unable to come out the scrimmage injury-free, which was important given that senior guard Antonio Anderson is sitting out with shin splints, freshman forward Angel Garcia is out with a sprained knee and freshman guard C.J. Henry is recovering from surgery on a broken foot.

Calipari said Evans would be out one week, meaning he won't play in Tuesday's exhibition game against Christian Brothers at FedExForum.

Unless Anderson gets better quickly, the Tigers could have just eight or nine scholarship players available for the CBU game depending on whether freshman forward Matt Simpkins is declared academically eligible by the NCAA.

The major point for Calipari will be bringing out a consistent effort from whoever is on the court.

"We get there, and after 20 minutes I want to go throw up like, we're awful," Calipari said. "And then they play for 5-to-7 minutes and really look like they're competing. They don't understand how to play a full possession; there's one guy that just stops. But it was a great scrimmage to learn about our team."
11-02-2008 10:22 AM
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Dave-
Any word on the scrimmage?
11-02-2008 02:37 PM
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Scrimmage. Oh, man. My basketball "career" was very brief, but I HATED scrimmages. Typically they are more brutal than regular practices or intrasquad scrimmages. They are a good way to see where you are, though, and to get better. I'd rather they would have two scrimmages and skip the meaningless exhibition game.
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Kent 76 Wrote:Scrimmage. Oh, man. My basketball "career" was very brief, but I HATED scrimmages. Typically they are more brutal than regular practices or intrasquad scrimmages. They are a good way to see where you are, though, and to get better. I'd rather they would have two scrimmages and skip the meaningless exhibition game.

LOL. Agreed! "We don't need no steenking refs. Let 'em play!" Tougher than practice scrimmages by far.
11-02-2008 06:05 PM
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Guaranteed there were refs.
11-02-2008 06:38 PM
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Of course. But they aren't called like a real game especially in terms of how physical they get.
11-02-2008 07:21 PM
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The Michigan rivals page says they think they won all 4 QTRS played against us. They too are waiting more definitive word on who played well, what happened, etc.
11-02-2008 08:23 PM
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I can say 100% their schrimage was against Michigan. The NCAA does not allow any non-team members into those schrimages. They close it off to the public and in some cases employees in the athletic office are not even allowed in. The NCAA is very tight with these rules and they question every person there from the head coach to the trainers to make sure they are allowed to be at the game.
11-02-2008 10:16 PM
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Some guy on the ksu pay site on the other board is saying Tyree Evans and Simpson didn't make the trip to Ann Arbor and is hinting at disciplinary issues - anyone heard anything ?
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Dannyb73,

Absolutely not true that it was for disciplinary reasons.
They had academic obligations. And its not an issue of bad grades. Their grades are fine.
Schoolwork comes first, though.
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11-02-2008 11:56 PM
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As for word on the scrimmage ...

I've only heard that they did not play well. Coaches aren't allowed to talk about it, but they were clearly not very pleased.
I would bet it is true that Michigan did win every quarter.
11-02-2008 11:58 PM
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Dave - That is great news. However, it does seem off that this event was a leave on the weekend, play on the weekend, return on the weekend kind of event, yet it was necessary to leave them behind. In my days (I traveled with KSU from 91-95) that would not have happened. So to me it still seems a little fishy.
11-03-2008 04:59 AM
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Quote:Dave - That is great news. However, it does seem off that this event was a leave on the weekend, play on the weekend, return on the weekend kind of event, yet it was necessary to leave them behind. In my days (I traveled with KSU from 91-95) that would not have happened. So to me it still seems a little fishy

See the point if it's about missing classes, but could be individual or (academic) team based projects due that they didn't finish. Dave wouldn't lie about this- seems to me there's no big deal about not making a road trip for a scrimmage.
11-03-2008 06:34 AM
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