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I think things get pretty simple for the Golden Flashes from here on out. Play hard, play with pride and bring it home! I don't really know what to say as far as breaking down keys to this game other than I plan to get behind the gold and blue big time tonight.

Oh I can't help it....we need to keep that point guard out on the perimeter. Don't let him penetrate!

are we at full strength tonight? on OU board they alluded to record courier article that had sing, sherm, simpson and evans all with varying degrees of ailments.

(02-17-2010 11:42 AM)ksu315 Wrote:  are we at full strength tonight? on OU board they alluded to record courier article that had sing, sherm, simpson and evans all with varying degrees of ailments.

From Carducci's blog:

Quote:The Golden Flashes, meanwhile, have some major injury questions. Chris Singletary has been playing on a sprained MCL in the same knee he had surgically repaired earlier in the year. He hasn’t been able to participate in many practices, though. Rod Sherman is also struggling with soreness in his surgically-repaired knee. Tyree Evans was supposed to have surgery to fix his broken nose on Tuesday, but that had to be postponed until Thursday after he came down with the flu. Sixth-man Anthony Simpson could also be limited by an injured thumb on his shooting hand. Simpson insists he will play through the pain. He had surgery on the thumb in the offseason, then re-injured the thumb Saturday at Buffalo.

http://www.blogs.dixcdn.com/kentstatesports/?p=685

I'll tell you what. I get it that Kent is beat up and I don't want to downplay this stuff. But this is gut cutting time. I think most teams around the nation are beat up and old injuries are popping back up at this point in the season. Time to suck it up and find a way!

I'm not sure I would say just suck it up. We're talking about pains that are a result of surgical repairs. Those kind of things could be potentially serious. I would like to see each one of them gut it out and come play tonight. However, this is still a regular season game and I don't think anyone should do anything that could prevent them from being on the floor in Cleveland. I'm sure the training staff will handle the situation right and if they can play I'm sure they will.

Good Win tonight. Free throw shooting was out crutch for once! Singletary continues to impress and lead this team through thick and thin!

That was a lesson in closing out a game.

I was told that there are not MAC specific referees, like the good old days. If this is true, why are they so consistantly BAD or doess the MAC just get the worst of the worst ???? I would never want the game to go down to the wire and depend on the referees making the corrrect call.....

Tough, gutsy win. I didn't think they were going to pull it out, but closing on a 30-15 run was impressive. Props to OU for a tough game (my Bobcat wife represented in green & white). It would have been a different game if KSU hadn't waited until the last ten minutes to turn up the D and crash the boards. At one point in the second half, OU was 8/12 from 3. Next time I looked, they were 9/21.

As KBallard said, Sing's leadership and maturity continues to impress. Interesting interaction late in the second half -- KSU scored and came back down on D, and Simpson was barking at Greene. Chris grabbed Greene with two hands and shoved him toward his man (one of the OU bigs, can't remember who now).

Man, is Cooper good. Cooper, Holt, and Humpty will be a lot of fun to watch over the next few years.

Groce needs to spend more time coaching and less time crying. He was in the refs' ears the entire game. MAC refs suck, we know. You just can't spend 40 minutes complaining about every call. I never yell at the opposing coaches, but he deserved some heckling tonight.

Very nice win tonight. I thought that right from the start it was obvious that OU recognized that Kent has injury issues at the moment and were bound and determined to play very physical. It was a very rough game. I don't know what Washington did to get the T but if it built from the offensive foul he was called for the possession before then he deserved it. Twice he went down onto the block and attempted to post up Simpson while the ball was on the other side of the court. How he posted him up bordered on assault.

The refs were VERY bad all game. It wasn't one sided they were terrible both ways. They called a charge on Keely early in the second half when Singltary was standing right under the basket. I think Ou ma have got the worst of the whistles down the strech. However, many of the no calls came on Bassetts drives. He really flopps his head around when he drives trying to make it look like there's contact. For most of the game they gave him those calls but at the end they stopped.

As far as the individuals today, Singltary obviously dominated and for the second time this year could not be stopped by OU. I can't say enough about how Simpson played today. Last year at this time he couldn't even keep Brett Mcknight infront of him. Today many times he had to switch out on Bassett on the perimeter and the majority of the times he managed to not allow him to drive. I was very impressed with his defensive game tonight, good job closing out on shooters too. I thought Evans also played a very good defensive game. He really stepped up his defensive pressure late. I know he gets critized on here a lot but it was great to see him have a big impact on a game when his shot isn't falling. Also Sherman didn't do very much all game but really did a great job to close the game out at the line. Very gutsy performanced by those four to fight through there injuries tonight.

(02-17-2010 10:08 PM)bball72 Wrote:  I was told that there are not MAC specific referees, like the good old days. If this is true, why are they so consistantly BAD or doess the MAC just get the worst of the worst ???? I would never want the game to go down to the wire and depend on the referees making the corrrect call.....

Refs are regional now, B10, Horizon, MAC pretty much have the same pool of refs. obviously the B10 gets first pick and so on down depending on schedules and travel.

And we get the refs nobody wants? Why don't they just get a random number generator and tell them that where they go is where they are randomly selected to show up? It wouldn't hurt their track records considering consistency is key at any level and its not fair for us to always have terrible teams of referees! Maybe if some of these officials were on national TV more often they'd think twice about how they call the game as well.

Coach Senderhoff on the radio after the game:

"Our guys have a tendency to spend too much time worrying about calls the refs are making. We need to remind them to let the players play, the coaches coach and the refs ref."

I think aside from the fact the Singletary gets mugged like crazy when he goes to the hoop and doesn't get nearly enough calls, this one was officiated okay.

(02-18-2010 08:52 AM)Kballard122 Wrote:  And we get the refs nobody wants? Why don't they just get a random number generator and tell them that where they go is where they are randomly selected to show up? It wouldn't hurt their track records considering consistency is key at any level and its not fair for us to always have terrible teams of referees! Maybe if some of these officials were on national TV more often they'd think twice about how they call the game as well.

Haha random number generator, I like that.

On a serious note though maybe they should try to keep refs together in a set crew. I know at one point last night Singltary was called for a 3 second violation by the ref at the mid court line. What was he even doing counting? Kind of like players if the refs are used to doing their job together as a team then theoretically they should be better right? As far as I know they don't keep refs in set crews now do they?

Different referees are affiliated with different conferences, have different timetables, travel constraints, and workloads. I can't see a logistical way to keep crews together.

(02-18-2010 06:42 PM)anti-zip Wrote:  

(02-18-2010 08:52 AM)Kballard122 Wrote:  And we get the refs nobody wants? Why don't they just get a random number generator and tell them that where they go is where they are randomly selected to show up? It wouldn't hurt their track records considering consistency is key at any level and its not fair for us to always have terrible teams of referees! Maybe if some of these officials were on national TV more often they'd think twice about how they call the game as well.

Haha random number generator, I like that.

On a serious note though maybe they should try to keep refs together in a set crew. I know at one point last night Singltary was called for a 3 second violation by the ref at the mid court line. What was he even doing counting? Kind of like players if the refs are used to doing their job together as a team then theoretically they should be better right? As far as I know they don't keep refs in set crews now do they?

Although I'm not accusing anyone of corruption and i don't think that is a problem by any means, I could see why refs working in consistent teams would be a good way to worry the NCAA a little bit.

(02-19-2010 12:49 AM)Kballard122 Wrote:  Although I'm not accusing anyone of corruption and i don't think that is a problem by any means, I could see why refs working in consistent teams would be a good way to worry the NCAA a little bit.

FWIW, that's how it is in football. My brother was the lead official in the OVC for many years. His crew stuck together each season, and if I remember right, he had mostly the same crew for several years.

Kent shot 37% from the field and we are talking about the refs? Kent State had more Turnovers than assists and we are talking about the refs? Kent was 4-14 from three point range and we are talking about the refs? And whats worse...KENT WON THE GAME and we are talking about the refs?

(02-19-2010 11:52 AM)fallsdog Wrote:  Kent shot 37% from the field and we are talking about the refs? Kent State had more Turnovers than assists and we are talking about the refs? Kent was 4-14 from three point range and we are talking about the refs? And whats worse...KENT WON THE GAME and we are talking about the refs?

Thank goodness, someone sees the light. I was very close to the floor and watched this game very closely. I saw many calls on each team that I would question, however, MAC officiating has improved since the 70s and 80s. Aside from the refs chronically not calling contact fouls when Singletary goes to the low post, they really gave us some good calls late in the game. I believe that Groce's bitching from the first minute to the end of the game hurt his team. You can work an official too much, and he did. Look at our stats and you will wonder how we won that game. We were our worst enemy, not the officials.